Re: Things I would like to see in this server

[Haider]

I really liked your suggestion : But I suggest players with more than 500 or 700 ping couldn't even get a weapon on their hands or they can't fight ! (Lagger ? just go work as a civilian until your lag ends)
Another thing : You're right about advertising ! why are you banning players for adverting ? even if your players are going to play on that other server ! the loyal one will still playing in it (and of course we want loyal members!)

Thanks.

[JayXxX]

So I've played alot of servers in MTA, I also played SAMP but most of servers are RP and I dont like that at all. So this is a list I would like to see in a server for me to stay:

- Fair fighting system: Weapons must have high accuracy and a right damage input for every weapon, also there shall no be double weapons (because of MTA sync). Do not add stuff like "binds" or sneak walkstyle, bullshit.

- Less weapon damage from players with high ping: You know, there are always players with high ping and they get a huge advantage in combat. There are alot of ways to fix that, like freezing the player, making him not able to fight, etc etc. The best idea that came to my mind, is that players with +250 ping do either -10% or -15% less damage from weapons, but they still can move and whatever they want.

- Make it so not every faction (civilians, criminals, cops) can get everything from doing their stuff: Like criminals are the only one who should get drugs (if there is any drug system), so cops and civilians must buy it from criminals or play CnR events as criminal. This is just an example, hope you get what I mean.

- Mods: I love mods, but I hate when they are set as default on servers, and you can find 34242 mods in the fucking game replacing everything, 1. That shit not only gives lag, and makes players get a huge download because of it, but also it makes GTA dont look like GTA anymore, e.g of mods: cars, other world object models, weapons, etc. You can make a board where ppl can teach others how to install mods for themselves and also share their mods.

- Staff Team: Staff team must be here to help, to listen players and to make the game free of cheaters. I hate those staffs like in C.I.T, who are supposed to be there to HELP, but yet they ignore you as shit, you can't even pm them because they have "SMS locked only for friends", why the fuck did you apply for staff then? I hope it doesnt happen here too and you guys start like them, banning for silly reasons and doing stuff for their own. WE NEED EXPERIENCED AND MATURE STAFFS WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO ACT LIKE A STAFF.

- Do not limit the fun:

* Do not make a script for the through walls thing.
* Do not make a script to block crounching with deagle to stop mta c-bug (tbh thats not even close to the real cbug)
* Do not disable custom skin models because of small skin users, find another way instead to avoid that.
* Make a good anti ping spikes script to avoid cheaters.
* Make a good bullet sync script.
* If you actually have a good fighting system, DO NOT NEVER CHANGE IT BECAUSE OF NOOB PLAYERS SUGGESTION WHO CANT LEARN TO FIGHT.
* Do not add explosives aka grenades, satchels or rpgs, or add them in a very limited way, LOOK HOW C.I.T ENDED.
* Do not make a lazy server where you can buy/get everything without moving your ass (like F7 from C.I.T)
* Do not make a P2W donator system, it will lose the sense of everything. e.g ez money for donating 10$.
* Make a server whe you actually have to work hard in jobs or have to be a skilled player to get the best rewards.

- Simple and beautiful GUIs: Theres nothing that can make a server more beautiful that a nice GUI for every stuff. JTPenn is good at this.

- Simple server: To make a good server focus on the quality of the scripts and things it have, you dont need 50 jobs, 1260 criminal activities etc to make a good server, make a simple and unique server with quality. You guys should prioritize CnR and PvP-based scripts.

- Make easy jobs to understand and to play: Pilot job? Flight to other places and DONE. Do not make it like you first should go to here, then here, then fuck your mother, then here, BOOM MONEY. thats BORING. Btw this is an example you can apply it to others jobs.

- Do not ban players for talking about others servers or advertising: I wouldnt never understand it, DUDE IF THEY ARE IN YOUR SERVER ITS BECAUSE THEY LIKE TO PLAY IN IT, THEY WILL STILL PLAYING EVEN IF THEY TALK ABOUT OTHERS SERVERS.

- Make strict rules for cheaters: You should really take this in consideration as a must.

So probably there are more things but I cant remember, but at last I will say, If the server is growing well, and getting a better playerbase, remember my words, They are playing because how is the server right now, its features and how it works, do not never listen suggestions that would change a script thats already done, get as an example from C.I.T

This wall of text is directed to devs, head staffs and @Gus as the owner.

[Nickelz]

"Do not limit the fun" for cheaters

[JayXxX]

"Do not limit the fun" for cheaters

I guess you are saying that because of the cbug and the through walls part

1. Do you know c-bug in mta its ridiculous compared to the one from gta/samp where you can spam 7 bullets in less than a second?
2. Have you ever tried to find a tactic or think which weapon is more accurate to kill someone hidden? I bet you didnt try and thats why you see it as cheat.

No hate

[Nickelz]

I guess you are saying that because of the cbug and the through walls part

1. Do you know c-bug in mta its ridiculous compared to the one from gta/samp where you can spam 7 bullets in less than a second?
2. Have you ever tried to find a tactic or think which weapon is more accurate to kill someone hidden? I bet you didnt try and thats why you see it as cheat.

No hate

1. Why would I even compare MTA to SAMP?
2. It's not impossible to kill anybody, cuz if he could hide somewhere, then you can too
Also, what about the small skins???

[JayXxX]

I really liked your suggestion : But I suggest players with more than 500 or 700 ping couldn't even get a weapon on their hands or they can't fight ! (Lagger ? just go work as a civilian until your lag ends)
Another thing : You're right about advertising ! why are you banning players for adverting ? even if your players are going to play on that other server ! the loyal one will still playing in it (and of course we want loyal members!)

Thanks.

Nice one

1. Why would I even compare MTA to SAMP?
2. It's not impossible to kill anybody, cuz if he could hide somewhere, then you can too
Also, what about the small skins???

1. Same game, different platforms. MTA tried to fix c-bug, thats why I say MTA one ("fixed one") is nothing compared to the SAMP/GTA one (that MTA had too)

About small skins, im against ppl who use small skins to dont get damage, but what I mean is to find another way to deal with small skin users, so we dont limit other players using modded skins (that might not be used to cheat but to have fun)

EDIT: e.g of script to avoid small skin users.

Player 1 is shooting Player 2 who is using small skin.

Player 2 aint getting damage but a script detects Player 1 is shooting him.

Player 2 get freezed and his skin get changed to a random one

[Cirani]

I really liked your suggestion : But I suggest players with more than 500 or 700 ping couldn't even get a weapon on their hands or they can't fight ! (Lagger ? just go work as a civilian until your lag ends)
Another thing : You're right about advertising ! why are you banning players for adverting ? even if your players are going to play on that other server ! the loyal one will still playing in it (and of course we want loyal members!)

Thanks.

Day 56853 im still trying to work as a civilian till my lag ends.. when will i be able to move to a country near the host

[M1]

Time for a WALL! hehe.

- On the fair fighting system. I feel the best system is one that is actually as "Realistic" as GTA:SA can achieve. Weapons will be about as accurate as they should be, and damage should be quite high.

- I kind of like the idea of high-pingers seeing their weapon damage faulter instead of completely removing them from the fight. That would have to be something to test.

- Also agree with factions should get unique things. I was trying to ponder a counter to criminals getting exclusive access to earning drugs. Drugs should be treated like cash on GTI. A percentage is dropped on death if you have over a certain amount. Cops should also get something exclusive other than the police cars which tend to be overal useless. I was going to suggest that maybe they have access to a better M4. (If we don't use weapon skills we can use the skills system to do variants of weapons iirc) Also Civilians should get something too, maybe more money?

- Agree on mods for the most part. They shouldn't be forced on people. I do like the mod panel im gay used and GTI was going to use, that only download when people want to use it.

- Mostly agree on staff, but that also relies on us maintaining a mature player-base too. That's what happened with C.I.T is the playerbase over there has been childish for so long that Staff have changed in their mentality. The same will likely happen here if Staff start getting PM bombed with stupid shit. Just keep that in mind!

- I do plan on keeping bans limited, and talking about other servers is fine. Infact that fueled quite a bit of my suggestions in GTI was talking about how we could do stuff better than X server. However, main chats are NOT for advertising other servers. If you want to take friends elsewhere use the PM system! However, when it comes to players that cheat or grief to ruin the gameplay of others I don't intend on being easy on. Unless Gus deems otherwise that will be a simple three strike system. Three chances then a player is gone for cheating or griefing.

- Through walls shouldn't be a thing, as it can get ridiculous. However if its scripted it should be done a bit better than GTI's implementation that kept people from shooting through grass and such.

- As for limiting crouching with deagle. That shouldn't be a thing as I can ponder several other ways to limit Cbug even more than MTA tries to inherently do! Muhaha!

- Sadly I don't see how your script solution for skins would work without introducing other means to abuse it. If your system sounds as client-sided as I think it is someone could just install larger skins for all the skins he doesn't use to shoot at players to force them to freeze. A simple fix is to not allow .DFF mods with skins, as that is what allows small skins. TXD mods should be allowed, and maybe even a system where people could share it (you know, re-texturing of existing skins!)

- Agree on ping spikes, as well as packet spikes detection, bullet sync is handled by MTA so not much one can do there

- And to keep this wall shorter, I agree with most of everything else past that in the OP, especially Fuck Explosives!

(although jobs should strive for the Goldilocks principle. Not too complicated and not too simple, aim for "Just Right" as both extremes tend to make jobs tedious and annoying.)


(Lol just realized how a certain server's name auto corrects to 'im gay')

[NewYorkStar]

* Do not make a script for the through walls thing.
bullshit for abusers from QX2 era
* Do not make a script to block crounching with deagle to stop mta c-bug (tbh thats not even close to the real cbug)
bullshit
* Make a good bullet sync script.
no way since sync based on mta core and your ping
* If you actually have a good fighting system, DO NOT NEVER CHANGE IT BECAUSE OF NOOB PLAYERS SUGGESTION WHO CANT LEARN TO FIGHT.
wha??
* Do not add explosives aka grenades, satchels or rpgs, or add them in a very limited way, LOOK HOW C.I.T ENDED.
1 rpg every 30 min was fine in 2k12
* Do not make a lazy server where you can buy/get everything without moving your ass (like F7 from C.I.T)
agree
* Do not make a P2W donator system, it will lose the sense of everything. e.g ez money for donating 10$.
how to make proffit then?
* Make a server whe you actually have to work hard in jobs or have to be a skilled player to get the best rewards.
agree

[JayXxX]

* Do not make a script for the through walls thing.
bullshit for abusers from QX2 era

Because he used that, doesnt mean through walls thing is from his era, also things like this will avoid ppl running through objects/trees whatever that makes them invencible from bullets

* Do not make a script to block crounching with deagle to stop mta c-bug (tbh thats not even close to the real cbug)
bullshit

Is stupid to make a script for that, like you arent going to fully success all the bullets on the opponent, or even to be that useful

* Make a good bullet sync script.
no way since sync based on mta core and your ping

I saw servers where damage is client side, so if you are shooting the ped (opponent) and you see in your screen you are damaging him, no matters what ping he have, or if he is using small skins, he will get damaged

* Do not add explosives aka grenades, satchels or rpgs, or add them in a very limited way, LOOK HOW C.I.T ENDED.
1 rpg every 30 min was fine in 2k12

agree, but satchels and greandes will be hardly exploited

* Do not make a P2W donator system, it will lose the sense of everything. e.g ez money for donating 10$.
how to make proffit then?

Instead of giving insta-money for donating, we would put as benefits things like. +20% money for arresting, working as civ, turfing etc, something like VIP from CIT, jetpack feature, car recovery... also it could be monthly suscription. In short, things that would make you still have to work hard but with some benefits

[Backsage]

Try not to add too many bullshit advantages that only a certain group of people will be able to use. This will create an unbalance in the community and you'll be left with a community that's very divided. Just look at the LV side of CIT. Very toxic and I wouldn't wanna set foot in LV ever again. If I had it my way, I'd disable LV chat cuz I don't wanna see all the provoking and trolling. And that OhhKarim guy giving excuses like "If you couldn't reach your goals or you're upset over something, just leave." Yeah, I'll leave alright, to get away from your toxic community and stupid members who are getting duped into donating money while the Head Staff are making money off of you guys. So you can buy a bunch of nades/satchels and say you're a pro? Or to buy a custom title for $10M? WTF? Or even an overpowered Advanced Hummer that most cops would just ignore because it's not worth it?!

Try to make it so you can only gain a forum status if a staff thinks you've earned it and will give it to you. Like seriously, what is the fucking point of having to apply FOR A FUCKING FORUM STATUS?! We all know why you're applying for a forum status. All of the applications are the same, so it really doesn't make sense to apply for one, unless you're xb0x and you give the reason of "Oh, it just makes things easier for the Forum Community Managers." And maybe if you want a blacklist and you want the whole community to see, well, that's fine. But the benefit of not having to apply for a status is you don't have to worry about trying to be helpful, get gainful posts in order to meet the requirements. Staffs will give you a rank when they feel you deserve it and remove it when they feel you don't deserve it.

Try not to have too many civilian jobs that are just "Enter vehicle, go to marker, get money." If you're gonna do that, you might as well just have like maybe 3-5 jobs tops, unless you're actually making some civilian jobs interesting (e.g. ability to get resources).

Try to focus on creating actual quality scripts. Scripts that would bring a lot of variety, be unique, and be able to draw a lot of players to it so much that it would never get boring.

Everyone should be able to have the same amount of fun as everyone else. Certain types of fun shouldn't be limited to a certain group just because they donated. Note: This is just my opinion. Some of you may actually disagree with this.

[Noble]

This server won't be giving unfair advantages for donators. I am sure of it. Hey Backsage, ex SWAT member. Remember me? I hope to see you in game :3

[JayXxX]

Nono, i guess he was from FBI if you are talking about cit

About what Backsage said, I agree on what he said less the resources part, something I also dont like (from cit in this case) is the amount of "resources" the server has, like iron, hemp, chemicals, explosives, wheat, etc etc etc, I kinda dislike that idea basically because i like more a simple server, where there no that much thing to do but yet they are fun to play

[NIGHTMARE]

I am expecting that CnR will be made in a very good and a fair way , and i want to see events based on criminals against cops , that are well mapped and good for both sides.

[Cirani]

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